For the first time in this century, we did our business as fast as the situations allowed. We had an agreement in place for Rice and though there were some tussles, it was never off the table. We paid the money West Ham demanded, got our target and that’s done and dusted. Same happened for Havertz, an opportunity arises, Mikel wanted him so we went to Chelsea with a bag full of cash and brought him to the better side of London.
We wanted Ben White’s back up, who can play at LB if the need be and Timber arrived. With Champions League games this season, we needed more of a Ramsdale competition and not a back up. David Raya signs for Arsenal and Brentford agreed to our demands to keep the FFP happy.
Good, right? Not really. We spent some serious money, exactly what the buying clubs wanted and one of those deals include 65m for Kai, who hasn’t really been pulling trees. But when it comes to selling, it feels like we are John Snow – bending the knee and knows nothing.
Yes, my frustration is with Kieren Tierney deal. KT is a brilliant fullback, just because Mikel thinks he can’t do what he wants, doesn’t mean he is a player you have to send out on a loan. Loaning an Arsenal player and Scotland international who is only 26 years of age and has 102 appearances for Celtic and 91 for Arsenal, on loan to Real Sociedad is maddening; even when you don’t consider the Timber injury and we are in a for a LB now who will take time to settle at the club. A readymade player for peanuts, a replacement for the price of a buggati which will need some maintenance to its exhaust system.
Anyone saying a loan deal will improve his price tag is fooling himself. It doesn’t happen when an Arsenal player joins Real Sociedad. It didn’t happen with Pepe, Maitland-Niles, Cedric, Bellerin and it will not happen with Tierney.
Another case is Tavares. We wanted to sell him, Forest wants a loan and an option to buy. The only positive thing about Nuno’s forest move would be that he will get Premier League game time and he has both potential and age in his favor.
Rumours are out there that Chelsea wants ESR. It’s only a rumour, but heck if it turns out to be true, I have a feeling we will agree for 25m, for a player who was priced 80m before injury and is back to fitness after being operated for a permanent fix to his injury concerns. We are so bad at selling, we let go Maitland-Niles for free, after rejecting 20m from Wolves a season back. We sold Leno for less than what we were okay to pay for a reserve keeper in Turner.
Our biggest sale till date is 34m for AOC to Liverpool, ages ago. Sums up everything I guess.
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I understand we are the biggest club in London. And we have several revenue sources, in Season Ticket Sales, advertisements, MatchDay earnings, and Merchandise sales. However, player sales can be an equally good source. Chelsea has been doing it for ages, while competing for titles for years. I’m not asking for a Dortmund/Brighton model, because we have better ambitions but identifying players not needed for the system and generating good sales on them should be a must.
Because, your inefficiency in generating sales will not stop you from buying players. And because the difference will be paid by the public through the ticket prices. I’m sure the 120 bucks I spent on buying just a tshirt contributes to Havertz salary and I’m sure it could have been KT’s 40m added up with 15m for Tavares.
We had/have been poor in selling. Everyone knows that. There’s no attempt to fix that, is what is baffling me. Club don’t need to worry if they take up a stance to stick to their valuations and a deal falls off, because the fans who are supporting Tierney loan and ESR sale to Chelsea will support that too.
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12878348/transfer-news-summer-transfer-window-2023-premier-league-ins-and-outs
See Brighton’s and our TW movements as a contrast in older comments.
Tony
I see soppy bollocks 2, Edu is struggling to find a buyer for Lokonga.
Luton the latest, of course it will be a loan at best. More karma?
He couldn’t sell lube in a knocking shop.
Other clubs simply taking the piss as usual on transfer deadline day.
We just can not sell players, and that ultimately means ticket prices have to go up.
Cheers Tony for taking my earlier points about Balo and Holding to the nth degree…much appreciated…until we rewrite this “amateur hour personified” narrative we will never be considered one of the elite clubs in Europe
the PR machine is in full force, as here are a few of the headlines involving the Holding deal:
“Arsenal set to seal multi-million deal today”
“Arsenal about to make 2M profit on player”
“They’ve doubled their investment”
WTF
much like Sambi at the Luton match, it appears as if we’re watching on, when it comes to securing some much-needed late window reinforcements
tick, tick, tick…dud
Mikel’s presser. Can anyone translate what it means?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66687151
just a wannabe coaching savant dumbing it down for us regular folk
TRVL
We are always close with our views and I’m sure you’re like me and not holding out any hope for the season. It looks like Arteta’s comment at the end of the last season of players being able to cope with 80+ games a season.
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More of Partey at RB I assume, especially when the injuries come and they will as they did last season.
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Same shit different season me thinks. Only this time we might break down before xmas.
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Going too leave the pre match and TW round up to you, Ambarish and I’ll give my thoughts on the game tomorrow.
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KP have a great time where ever you’re following the football and Almunia I hope you can enjoy some good few pints with the right company and you’re over your ailments to make a fun and happy weekend.
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Have a good one LIR
80+ games a season will become a horrific challenge this season*
Robbie Robertson at his native best. RIP you are missed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C34ryDYlR8g
Really funny LG is in melt down – literally servers can’t cope I assume or pedro has switched them off.
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A&E have rolled the dice playing their biggest gamble yet and should fall on their swords accordingly when it all goes tits up again.
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That will be A&E’s good day to die and leave to let real football people with proven track records take over the lunatic asylum that is what Arsenal Football Club has become.
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Teflon aint going to help this time.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/champions-league-fixtures-schedule-dates-30846172#source=breaking-news
Real Vera Lynn.
You nailed it with your paragraph.
Silly Bollocks no 1 , thinks he is inventing a new game or something.
Something about 42 structures and Londons fucked up roadworks.
How about getting the team focused on the basics and forgetting this 42 structures bollocks and not conceding a goal in the first minute at home to Fulham?
His interview at the pre match presser simply makes him look a bigger fucking idiot than normal.
Might as well, put the dog in the managers seat, get more fucking sense.
AFC is not bad at selling, we are only selling dross. We can’t sell Saka, Nelli, or Martin because they are the future .. but they will fetch money 7f you want to.
Wilshere
What’s our record fee achieved on a sale?
What have City just sold a youth player for who’s hardly played a first team match?
Did we pay Auba to leave only for Barca to sell him for ten odd million 6 months later?
What are fees we achieved for Torreira and Guendozi compared to their values only a season earlier?
You’ve come to the wrong place to make excuses for A&E.
Marc/Wilshere
Any cunt can sell good players, good clobber , good anything, the knack is selling your shit for a good respectable price .
My prediction, if A&E are here in 12 months, Havetz will be paid off.
If you can not sell a player like Tierney and have to loan him , when clubs have spunked record amounts combined on players, you are clearly a clueless idiot and should be working something more suitable for your skillet.
McDonald’s or Greggs
And that’s not a slight on them staff.
Wilshire
Let’s be candid here but look at the link and look at how many times we undersold out quality.
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To be fair and in the spirit of things I’ll give you the first one:
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Emi Martinez sold for £17.4m – still not replaced after buying 2 keepers (one currently loaned) that could end up costing us £65m if we buy Raya and Ramsdale stays as back up.
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What’s the next choice Wilshire? ……… Anyone?
Art
We’re not “not very good” at selling players we’re fucking atrocious at selling players etc.
If you start adding up the money A&E have pissed up the wall in over paying for players, paying players off and wiping out the value of players before selling them on the cheap, letting them leave on a free etc it ends up in the hundreds of millions.
https://www.transfermarkt.com/fc-arsenal/rekordabgaenge/verein/11
Marc
I have no time for the pair of useless cunts. We have had 4 seasons of this shit show.
I think they scraped a million from Palace for Holding.
One million?
Loan for Tierney
Loan for Lokonga
Simply kicking the can down the road until next August.
Pepe the next player, waiting to be paid off as well.
Then it will be Havertz and on and on it goes.
Art
There’s a story in the Mail (no Kroenke I don’t read it I got it from the BBC Gossip page) saying that we considered terminating Pepe’s contract yesterday. We may have over paid for him but he is a player who has value – Pep or Klopp would have maintained some value and would be getting money for him.
My guess the only reason we didn’t do it is because it would have caused FFP problems.
ART
I’m just hazarding a guess but with over £600m spent by the Kroenkes who have leveraged that debt on the club, they will have been given certain promises for the spending; however, the £100s of millions lost over the last 4 years will never be KSE’s losses only the club’s, but the owners will be able to take the profits as they please being 100% owners.
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In sum, all losses will have a knock on affect and is why we are shedding players as fast as is humanly possible to dial costs back. Problem is no one explained this to A& E; they think the pot is always full.
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Arteta does want 18 interchangeable players – guaranteed to be unbreakable like saka currently is, and who can keep 200 player plays in their heads for the season. I mean why not? Are there over 2000 plays in American NFL football, right?
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Seems to me galaxy brain has just flipped out when he realised last season was really a fluke or what’s come to be known as the Leicester Tinkerman season.
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I can say this in so many ways, but the simplest is probably best:
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*The next 16 weeks is going to be bat-shit crazy for Gooners*
Tony
“Seems to me galaxy brain has just flipped out when he realised last season was really a fluke or what’s come to be known as the Leicester Tinkerman season.”
I think that’s the reason we’re seeing Arteta be even more over the top on the side lines.
He’s aware that this season finishing outside the top 4 will be terminal. Problem is that’ll be the same for Klopp, one slot has gone to City already and then you’ll have ManU, Chelsea, Newcastle plus any surprise teams. All this and he’s got to cope with being in the CL.
6 or 7 doesn’t go into 4 and Arteta’s proven track record is to underachieve.
If he’s feeling the heat already he’s fucked.
Marc/Tony
players, agents, other clubs know Arsenal will succumb in deadline day week and they get what they want and simply take the piss and they do it every fucking window.
We gave Chelsea £75 million for Jorginho and Havertz in the last 2 windows alone.
Will they improve us? No
Will we pay them to fuck off? Yes eventually
This is what comes up if you just type into the browser le-grove.co.uk
The domain
le-grove.co.uk
has expired and is parked free, courtesy of 123 Reg.
Don’t know how accurate this is but there are no redirection for previous links.
From the WHOIS database for the domain le-grove.co.uk:
Relevant dates:
Registered on: 28-Aug-2007
Expiry date: 28-Aug-2023
Last updated: 02-Sep-2023
Looks like a domain issue and if Pedro updated the registration fee it takes some time to filter through the DNS servers. No loss though for us as the A&E fanboys are irrelevant when it comes to Arsenal football. With the Man Utd. game on tomorrow it will be interesting what happens on that site.
New post.