Arsenal v Liverpool – big test for the lads

Martinelli showing Luiz Diaz who is the boss..

What a goal that was… Now, lets go and smash few more.

And Tomi pocketing Salah… Lololol… Fuck the bin dippers.

Saliba is just super. Simit effect like when VVD burst on the scene. Someone has been so perverse nit to have noticed. Read his outstanding nous was noticed even before Arsenal signed him

I hate to see Firminio coming on. Time to start getting some control back here.

Saka has radically improved since International. Hope not marketing. This goal 2-1 has been really good, although Martinelli cross been very accurate

In fairness,that Liverpool defence is a shambles.

Martinelli is one of those players whom you hate to play against.

Saka was brilliant for the tap, timed himself. Lets score couple more in second half to finish the game, this is not good for my heart and I have only turned 30.

#COYG 🔴⚪

Hoopah,

Completely agree, Saliba has the VVD’s composure of last years’. And, when he is 5-7 younger!

The way Martinelli checked that run and created all that space to cross to Bukayo. Fucking sublime. Let’s hope they can screw the nut in the second half. Hi Ambarish – I’ll look at your post later. Just so you know I’m not ignoring you!

Almunia

I was happy not seeing Firmino in starting lineup and then Nunez scored. Talk about my disappointment lol

Sorry

Mistyped Kroenkephobe in all that excitement.

The way Martinelli checked that run and created all that space to cross to Bukayo. Fucking sublime. Let’s hope they can screw the nut in the second half. Hi Ambarish – I’ll look at your post later. Just so you know I’m not ignoring you!

Re posted to save you the bother Ambarish

Evening chaps. Need better for the 2nd half and boss the mid field.

Pretty shortly in the 2nd half I’d add Marquinhos to play RW and move Saka to play Xhaka’s position.

Saka tried hand of God technology

Liverpool getting into physical intimidating. Now more dirty play artists coming on. Gomez was the start

Xakha into a scufle. Fortunately behind ref’s back

Saka gets the penalty in clean in spite of Allison stunts to raise ghosts of the past

Oops, Tierney escaped in the box. Fortunately Liverpool youngster didn’t raise Cain

Feels like the first time in over 10 years we’ve come out top in one of those wide open games. Very happy. We’re on the up and Liverpool are in some state of decline.

I wouldn’t want to be one of Almunia’s bin dipper brothers this evening. They’re in for a torrid time as he goes into full satire (ie piss taking) mode.

Hey Ambarish
Stop working so fucking hard mate! Grab a Cobra and take it easy. It’s going to be an interesting ride this year.

We definitely don’t want any mid season burnout! 😁

I really think (if he doesn’t get injured or sold) that Martinelli, more than any other forward,could join the pantheon of Arsenal greats. He’s ahead of Saka for me though that shouldn’t be interpreted as a slight,Saka is a marvellous player also. Add Saliba in there and we have such quality players at our disposal. 3-2 was deserved yet we had the benefit of the close calls tonight. I still feel Arteta is too cautious,too quick to put the shackles on. He’s not as guilty of it as Southgate for example,but it is his instinct to hold what we have. Perhaps he’ll grow to trust the players more as they continue to churn out the results. Or perhaps he feels they need to mature more before he changes his game plan. Regardless that was a cracking result against a real bogey team. Klopp has a lot of work to do on his defence. TAA was awol again at times and Gomez is nowhere near the required level. Matip and VVD no longer can contain the opponents forwards so more help is required from midfield but that’s not how Klopp sets his teams up to play. Even Henderson and Thiago look like they have too many miles done.
January is going to be fascinating as clubs reveal their hands. What will utd give ten haag? Are Newcastle going to move up another level? Will Arsenal smell blood and push the boat out? What money will Potter be given? Will spuds woo a soon to be out of contract Conte with some spending money?Above all,will Liverpool green light a rebuild to keep Klopp beyond year 7? The premiership landscape is shifting but it’s not clear what it will look like over the next few years. Thankfully it looks like we are going to be in the conversation for the foreseeable.

Completely agree with you Almunia.

TV money was always going to eventually level the playing field for the PL. Buying smart and a club’s well run youth set up with a quality critical thinking DoF and then a manager who can deliver with the players he’s asked for. Basically, that’s us in the future.

Mikel and Edu have a decent chance to keep our trajectory firmly upward. which seems to be the case for the start of this season. Certainly, a lot of rough edges still there to be rounded with those 2, but the signs are good for now.

Junior said to me early in the game Xhaka is playing false 9, 10, 8 & 6 getting into big chance situations and fluffing his lines. I mean wtf? His supporters say ‘oh bless’ he tries ever so hard.

Tomi can play across the back line, so maybe pair him with the superlative Saliba. Calmness personified.

I’d like Mikel to address the withdrawn periods where we look ragged. Last 15 in the 1st half v Spuds and Last 22 minutes in the 1st half against L’pool. It kind of seems like we know three game plan meticulously and then when the opposition changes tactics we’re left chasing shadows and giving the ball away far too easy in bad areas.

Mikel still has some kind of in-game management hang up. When we were looking like we could give up goals at 20 minutes, Mikel should have acted decisively: Xhaka should have been replaced with Saka. Marquinhos could have replaced Saka on the right. It would have given Klopp and his players more to think about than just attack repeatedly. I’d have also played holding replacing Gabs.

Instead Mikel did nothing and we hung on with Saka scoring before half time.

Anyway, it was a good win – a long overdue win, now lets do it again in their back yard.

Tony,
There are still a lot of questions to be answered regarding whether or not our current management have what it takes to deliver the titles that this club should aspire to. They are undoubtedly moving closer to competing,something I didn’t think they were capable of,but then again I presumed they would be working under the same type of financial restrictions that every other manager of this club has had since WW2. It is this incredible financial support that has led to my countering claims of Arteta’s ‘magnificent ‘ achievements. He has had the scales tipped heavily in his favour. I also don’t like how slow he is to learn from mistakes,particularly regarding in game management. But the strength of the squad and the momentum created means he deserves credit and the time to see if he can finish this job off. Many people believe in him now and although I’m not one of them I wouldn’t doubt that he has restored hope and pride to a fanbase that was bereft for well over a decade.

Almunia

I had this conversation yesterday with someone at the match – after spending £300 odd million (he’s cost us far more with piss poor dealings) I should fucking hope we’re playing better but there’s a simple truth that’s being overlooked. The wins we’re getting are either against teams we should beat or with the more difficult matches teams who put out really poor performances. Palace had a fucked up pre season so it was a good time to play them, the Spud’s were so negative it was a joke and Liverpool yesterday were a shadow of the team we’ve seen in recent years.

The teams who clinch top 4 will be the teams who manage the fixture congestion and injuries after the world cup.

Hi Marc good to see you posting here. Great win but a long way to go.

This will probably be my last post on LG so posting here before it gets pulled.

Nigel you’re wasting your time on me.

You, Positive Pedro-Pete, TeeCee, MarkeyMark and all Mikel’s & Pedro’s sycophants will never have a bearing on my Arsenal thoughts, because particularly like Bertie Mee I’ve followed The Arsenal for nearly 60 years. You belly griping bunch of 12 year olds, as that’s how you seem using your playground talk, as smack talk and none of you are good at that. More like creche playground talk.

This blog has gone down hill in the last 10 years and since Mikel rocked up. 90% of the good posters are gone. Fed up with Pedro’s trolling and his merry bunch of dipshits playing police blogging and telling people how to support a club. Maybe you should write a book.

The book of How to be a Mikel and Pedro Sycophant 101. JohhnyGunner thinks he’s a comedian so he can do the jokes one a blog. Mathew seems to the the knowledgeable one who makes sense all of the time.

Now JohnnyGunner is coming down on what he sees is negative Mikel or club talk. Still he is a joke.

The biggest racist here: Un, DON and about 30 other monikers is welcomed back with open arms and he’s still a racist tosser with jab as a mate. Most countries have guns, but old Toilet Brush plumber still jabs. He’ll find dodging bullets harder than punches. Turn left at the UK into Europe and the further west you go the more people have guns and ;little care for life.

Pedro’s moral compass is all about money these days and continued trolling and woke as fcuk.

The difference here is Junior and I live happily without LG where as the Sycophants can’t.

Weagle, Northbanker, Bob, Graham, Andy1886 (MIA) Topside, Tom, Luteo, MB, Mr Serge, Freddie, Marko and many more please don’t take the above as a dig at you, I’m not. I respect you all and you Luteo we’re all different and I like your intelligence. ES you’re still a bit condescending, but you make make sense these days without redundancy. .

What you sycophants don’t realize is, we’re only starting to show signs with the games won thus far. It’s a long season and the smarter fans will see and look to be proactive with their thoughts. To the stupid and uneducated anything that looks like negativity is jumped on – every time as well.

When Mikel tells certain players post game they were bad at this, and did that wrong are the players going to say you’re being negative Mikel we and I’m not listening to you. Tell us some thing positive?

That’s how you all act being Pedro & Mikels sycophants..

All this and Pedro wants paying for this rubbish kids playground stuff.

The really funny thing is Mikel has won nothing of note and having his best season so far after nearly 3 years of rubbish. He may never win anything other than a local league/FA tin cup that a team wins on the way to a title.

I hope he cleans up and wins the lot and does the quadruple, as a full blooded Gooner. It won’t bother me that Mikel made it all happen. I’d be happy for him and the club. Doesn’t mean I’d like his personality and his game playing with players careers – not playing them. His treatment of Saliba and Martinelli and others has been childish and spiteful to kids.

I want the club to win I really don’t care who the manager is, as they come and go and when gone there are mostly forgotten.

As for the sycophants Mikel will be gone in the future and you can clean socks ready for the new Mesiah. Probably Paddy.

Just thinking of gooner posters I enjoyed reading from the past and now MIA where Valentine from LG’s past was at the top of the list.

If you’re reading Val come here and post where your opinions are happily read and discussed. I know it distressed you on LG where people with your intelligence working in your fields can be troubled by the trolls. My wife and daughter are savant like and see and measure life through different lens.

When you understand that trolls are just that in life:Trolls. Now to be a troll you have to have a low IQ that looks much higher. The masking can only last for so long and then stupid is as stupid does.

Take Markeymark for instance. A one star troll who doesn’t understand what IQ stands for let along have one. Well, Val, he posted from the south west on holiday a month ago saying how he had 2 weeks of swimming and beach with the fantastic weather. Sadly, he didn’t read the papers for days before and at the time that the beaches in the south west had millions of raw sewage being pumped especially in MM’s holiday area.

His kids couldn’t understand why the sand castles once dried, broke their feet if you kicked it.

The BBQ must have been a riot with used condoms used for sausages and shit sliders between tampons. Drinking piss & vinegar. You couldn’t make it up.

Val, you’d enjoy it here, devoid of the village idiots and troglodytes.

LG is the spit and sawdust place where you leave morals outside and take in your guns. It was the best Arsenal blog, but once balance was lost so was LG.

Hope to see you here.

Reported that Martinelli wants £200k a week. I’d say he’s worth it and shows the club’s ambition not stupidity, such as Ozil’s, Auba’s and Willian’s deals.

Saka the same and Saliba. Make their talent be the guide/level for the £200K a week club for 5 years with option for 1 more for us. Buyouts for £150m. Make part of the income realistic, personal results related with no ceiling.

Why cap their earnings? Keep them hungry with banter in the squad.

Only do it now so these incredibly important and gifted players can focus on their work and not thinking about their agents’ foraging for improved deals.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11300457/Arsenal-make-Gabriel-Martinelli-one-earners-new-talks-started.html

Herb I couldn’t believe JohnnyGunner attacking you for your parting with knowledge. It made me sick with the lack of respect given. It was unnecessary and uncouth.

It got me to thinking about the puerile policing of the blog and someone saying you never know who is who moniker wise. With your comment on how I put up with the abuse I realised you were right.

I’ll not add to LG’s traffic any further, which I’m sure many will be happy to hear. I’ll leave comments here or just not bother. Junior’s 14 now and a fully fledged Gooner.

Father and son watching and bantering about The Arsenal. Things don’t get much better than that, Herb.

Agree Tony
LIR has become a top class blog because of the quality of posters. It was so pleasant to see you all guys, won’t name the favourite though , because it is difficult.
And yes, if Valentin surfaces that will be the icing. That guy seems to have good information on unsaid happenings at the Club.
So Valentin do come over where all your kinds are.
Finally thank you Ambarish for all the trouble you are taking . Feel free to let us know if patrons are required.

Hi Tony

Yeah, I agree, and it’s part of human nature to appreciate and enjoy your child’s development and achievements.
There’s a lot of jealousy and bile out there, everyone is angry, they’re either inventing things to be angry about, or they jump on someone else’s anger like a diseased parroting parasite.
It’s a bit concerning that these schisms and splits still exists and thrives within the Arsenal fan base, but in general, since the days of Thatcher, our society has been driven by aggressive capitalism at the expense of respect and good manners. That and technology driving humans further and further apart.

Tony
You’re right in my view to give LG a swerve. It’s got more shit-stained arseholes than an ethical but busy abattoir at the end of a shift. I know if I was in a room with some of them, there’d soon be, shall we say, a contretemps. A lot of them are angry Johnny come latelys talking angrily in order to sound hard. They’d last 5 minutes in The Gunners Pub.

Not having watched Arsenal in the flesh that often should never dis-bar someone from expressing themselves as a fan, far from it, but nor should the likes of plastic fans like Zacharse go the other way and be holier than thou because they worship Arteta who, to me, is the falsest of false idols. There are too many under 30s on LG whose sole points of reference are chihuahua head, Emery and the latest incumbent who leaves me cold. The other fucking idiots are humourless extensions of Pedro’s underwhelming imagination.

Herb that’s why your material is so readable because, like many, you’ve witnessed pre-Wenger Arsenal. The contrast on here is the people who don’t have that deep experience are willing to read and absorb people’s views. The guys on here who like me these days largely follow avidly from a distance are just as big Arsenal fans as ST holder Marc in my view.

By the way Hoopah, I’d love to hear what your Gooner mate think about the team so the more the merrier.

Have to agree with the posts above – Pedro always had a streak of holier than thou and played the “I’ve got contacts” card but he’s just become a complete cunt.

On a personal front I enjoy the banter of different views – it’s what reinforces my own. I always thought there’s one basic rule – don’t tell other people how to support their club but that goes both ways. No one gets to tell me what I should think or how within reason to act when I invest the time and money attending matches – I don’t do away matches but I’ve only got the highest respect for those that do.

All in all this place has become a very easy place to visit and comment on – when was the last time anyone could say that about Le Grove?

Hi Marc
Spot on. Really well put. Not sure if you were at the Bodo game but the last two league games must have been a blast. The only thing that spoiled Sunday for me was Mr Designer Knitwear doing that sideways skipping thing waving his arms about and shouting in the last 20 minutes. What a twat! I wouldn’t be surprised to hear that it makes the players feel intensely embarrassed and that it slightly undermines their confidence. You’d think they’d offer him some body-language coaching. He needs to exude calm and control but instead, he comes across as an injured 22 year old acting as a manager on Hackney marshes because the real manager has a slipped disc. Klopp and Conte do it as well. It’s not a good look. They should save it for afterwards.

GG’s reaction to beating Liverpool in 89 was a masterclass in restraint, self-control and belief in his team and our tactics. He also knew that the occasion called for class and decorum after Hillsborough and boy did he deliver.

Whether to watch home or away games is an interesting dichotomy (although many get to do both of course). I love away games – the defeats aren’t so difficult to swallow and the wins are often sweeter. I experienced Nirvana in that regard at Wigan’s DW stadium last Saturday!

Thank’s K’phobe both you and Marc are spot on. We can banter here when the times right and respect each other enough not to take it too far.

Sitting at my iMac this morning reading the overnight sports news and news headlines from various Dallies and once learning Putin is still only playing chicken with the nukes, I took my daily morning meds and Mighty X. Some thoughts permeated I thought I’d commit to print.

Last 2 days I’ve had occasion to ponder the Wenger-coming-back-to-The-Arsenal quandary where my mind wasn’t on whether he should return, (he shouldn’t in any capacity I say), but what would Mikel’s agenda be in supporting such a footballing, political statement?

The good times are here again Wenger will add to Mikels admiring ranks?

Who would be riding whose tail coats?

What could Wenger know and practice now better than when he was rightly fired?

Nothing ever becomes good when you give a narcissist an audience where in this case: global millions. We’d be giving 2 elite narcissists keys to the Arsenal empire. Then once they had decided who would keep the keys with Xhaka firmly not in the equation, would we realise how much BS, Lies and disrespect we fans would have to endure in stereo for the foreseeable future.

He’s worth a statue for his first 10 years, just not a living breathing and talking one who would have to be involved in decision making. Mikel would quickly become the Gazidis to the dithering leader grabbing helplessly to power before KSE realised that Wenger would far more enjoy an enforced long stay at a secret, reclusive health farm and put out to graze with GG, Bruce Rioch and other major influencers of The Arsenal’s history.

There’s a satire there Almunia somewhere or the bones of one.

So it’s a hard no from me with Wenger being anywhere near the club unless it’s a metal statue.

Marc I envy you being at the games, but in a positive way of being happy for you making it possible to enjoy your Arsenal experience up front and personal. Being at home games has to be the ultimate experience. If junior ends up at Edinburgh Uni in a few years time, he’ll be down for games for sure.

When you post post games it’s a small vicarious window in which to see what you did. I’m grateful for the insight as it wouldn’t surprise me if others felt the same.

I agree with you about Pedro. His arrogant attitudes and decision making felt more like something like recreational overload over a period of time, which would fit in with the sharp decline of the blog. My time in the music industry taught me all I needed to know about the negatives of such life’s choices. New York is full of “Bright lights, Big City” trap doors to fall into.

Still, to finish on a high we’re sitting on the top of the table with a squad that with the right addition(s) January could make this a break out season to remember. I’m far from convinced about Arteta but he’s just as likely to get a 2nd finish as a 4th, 5th or 6th. February will give us a far clearer picture for the run in.

All or Nothing was for an American audience made by an American company. All fist bumping and elaborate high 5s hands cracking sounds.

Mikels machine gun patter in a deep Catalonian accent and eccentric, reverse thinking talks did Mikel’s credentials little good. I said at the time Mikel needs to go to a speech therapist first before worrying what his body language is telling those who understand and read such things.

For our season at this point it’s difficult to read past the World Cup. Though, right now only 2 things really concern me:

The vulnerable lulls in games after the initial full on front foot pressing

The use of Xhaka missing gilt edge chances are as bad as giving penalties away.

Remedy these concerns and 1st is ours to lose even if we lose to City twice. We just have to win more of the other games than City.

Interesting equation, Yes?

Have a good day chaps. Look forward to reading your thoughts.